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		<title>By: Luke</title>
		<link>http://www.economicprincipals.com/issues/2012.12.23/1449.html/comment-page-1#comment-98659</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2012 21:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I will admit that I&#039;ve not read much of Kuhn beyond his landmark book, but from what I have read, he did not intend his book to be the starting point for a new normative system of philosophy of science, unavoidable though that may have been. 

However, it seems quite definitionally impossible to derive a proposition from a set of premises, i.e., to say something in the analytic philosophical sense, without having a normative framework which establishes the procedures for doing so, a fact which the reception and impact of Kuhn&#039;s work seems to validate. Insofar as some version of formal logic is true, one can only be so &quot;meta&quot; while saying something with meaning.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will admit that I&#8217;ve not read much of Kuhn beyond his landmark book, but from what I have read, he did not intend his book to be the starting point for a new normative system of philosophy of science, unavoidable though that may have been. </p>
<p>However, it seems quite definitionally impossible to derive a proposition from a set of premises, i.e., to say something in the analytic philosophical sense, without having a normative framework which establishes the procedures for doing so, a fact which the reception and impact of Kuhn&#8217;s work seems to validate. Insofar as some version of formal logic is true, one can only be so &#8220;meta&#8221; while saying something with meaning.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2012 17:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[very nicely put.  that seems to me the essence of the matter. it is routinely overlooked.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very nicely put.  that seems to me the essence of the matter. it is routinely overlooked.</p>
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		<title>By: Dale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2012 17:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As far as I can see, paradigm shifts have a &quot;fractal&quot; property:  Large pardigm shifts are rare, but within the stable periods of large paradigm shifts, there are much more frequent smaller paradigm shifts regarding small parts that fit within the larger paradigm.  In a sense, all scientific activity is the battle of paradigms, and most of the day-to-day action is battle on the smallest scales.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I can see, paradigm shifts have a &#8220;fractal&#8221; property:  Large pardigm shifts are rare, but within the stable periods of large paradigm shifts, there are much more frequent smaller paradigm shifts regarding small parts that fit within the larger paradigm.  In a sense, all scientific activity is the battle of paradigms, and most of the day-to-day action is battle on the smallest scales.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2012 17:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A good point – and good example of kuhn’s skill at a rhetorician (the list is his).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good point – and good example of kuhn’s skill at a rhetorician (the list is his).</p>
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		<title>By: Dale</title>
		<link>http://www.economicprincipals.com/issues/2012.12.23/1449.html/comment-page-1#comment-98448</link>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2012 17:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You write: &quot;Aristotle’s Physica, Ptolemy’s Almagest, Newton’s Principia, Franklin’s Electricity, Lavoisier’s Chemistry, Lyell’s Geology&quot;

Amusingly, none of these references is strictly correct; all of these books have longer titles which, due to their popularity, have been reduced in the vernacular to a single word, in much the same way that famous entertainers become &quot;mononymous persons&quot; (vide Wikipedia).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You write: &#8220;Aristotle’s Physica, Ptolemy’s Almagest, Newton’s Principia, Franklin’s Electricity, Lavoisier’s Chemistry, Lyell’s Geology&#8221;</p>
<p>Amusingly, none of these references is strictly correct; all of these books have longer titles which, due to their popularity, have been reduced in the vernacular to a single word, in much the same way that famous entertainers become &#8220;mononymous persons&#8221; (vide Wikipedia).</p>
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		<title>By: Dale</title>
		<link>http://www.economicprincipals.com/issues/2012.12.23/1449.html/comment-page-1#comment-98443</link>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2012 17:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Beware that Google Books Ngrams is case sensitive.  The link you supplied is the data for &quot;Paradigm&quot;, but it does not include the data for &quot;paradigm&quot;.  Here&#039;s a link that provides both, though (expectedly), the two lines appear to be proportionate:  http://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Paradigm%2Cparadigm&amp;year_start=1900&amp;year_end=2008&amp;corpus=15&amp;smoothing=3&amp;share=]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beware that Google Books Ngrams is case sensitive.  The link you supplied is the data for &#8220;Paradigm&#8221;, but it does not include the data for &#8220;paradigm&#8221;.  Here&#8217;s a link that provides both, though (expectedly), the two lines appear to be proportionate:  <a href="http://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Paradigm%2Cparadigm&#038;year_start=1900&#038;year_end=2008&#038;corpus=15&#038;smoothing=3&#038;share=" rel="nofollow">http://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Paradigm%2Cparadigm&#038;year_start=1900&#038;year_end=2008&#038;corpus=15&#038;smoothing=3&#038;share=</a></p>
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		<title>By: gappy</title>
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		<dc:creator>gappy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2012 15:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This post is way too charitable toward Kuhn&#039;s work. By the time I was coming of age, 25 after its publication, Kuhn&#039;s work was being heavily criticized. Calling &quot;The logic of scientific discovery&quot; &quot;boilerplate&quot; is superficial at best. At worst, I&#039;d take it as a personal insult. Popper has had a material influence on the practice of science. Is one of the very few epistemologists scientists care about, and for good reasons. Someone told me once that epistemologists are just failed scientists, and this applies to Kuhn (who started as a physicist).

Kuhn&#039;s thesis is a nice narrative, mostly consistent with a non-continental lightweight version of Marxism, and the right book at the right time. It has given ammunition to plenty of forgettable scientists to cast themselves as non-normal scientists (Gleick&#039;s &quot;Chaos&quot;, anyone?). And in Economics, I am sure that post-autistics economists and econophysicists have absorbed its lesson, maybe through hearsay. 

But ultimately it is unfalsifiable and predicts nothing, and by construction has nothing normative to say. As a work of historical scholarship it relies too much on secondary sources. Worse still, it has help spawn sociologists of science like Bruno Latour. Need I say more?

I know this comment is venomous, but a reader approaching Kuhn&#039;s for the first time may receive a mistaken impression.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post is way too charitable toward Kuhn&#8217;s work. By the time I was coming of age, 25 after its publication, Kuhn&#8217;s work was being heavily criticized. Calling &#8220;The logic of scientific discovery&#8221; &#8220;boilerplate&#8221; is superficial at best. At worst, I&#8217;d take it as a personal insult. Popper has had a material influence on the practice of science. Is one of the very few epistemologists scientists care about, and for good reasons. Someone told me once that epistemologists are just failed scientists, and this applies to Kuhn (who started as a physicist).</p>
<p>Kuhn&#8217;s thesis is a nice narrative, mostly consistent with a non-continental lightweight version of Marxism, and the right book at the right time. It has given ammunition to plenty of forgettable scientists to cast themselves as non-normal scientists (Gleick&#8217;s &#8220;Chaos&#8221;, anyone?). And in Economics, I am sure that post-autistics economists and econophysicists have absorbed its lesson, maybe through hearsay. </p>
<p>But ultimately it is unfalsifiable and predicts nothing, and by construction has nothing normative to say. As a work of historical scholarship it relies too much on secondary sources. Worse still, it has help spawn sociologists of science like Bruno Latour. Need I say more?</p>
<p>I know this comment is venomous, but a reader approaching Kuhn&#8217;s for the first time may receive a mistaken impression.</p>
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		<title>By: Browsing Catharsis &#8211; 12.25.12 &#171; Increasing Marginal Utility</title>
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		<dc:creator>Browsing Catharsis &#8211; 12.25.12 &#171; Increasing Marginal Utility</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2012 12:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] -David Warsh, &#8220;Paradigms, after Fifty Years.&#8221; [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] -David Warsh, &#8220;Paradigms, after Fifty Years.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ezra abrams</title>
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		<dc:creator>ezra abrams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2012 04:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that the success of Kuhn is due more to style - he wrote a short, easy to read book, accessible to non specialits - then to any particular thought in the book.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the success of Kuhn is due more to style &#8211; he wrote a short, easy to read book, accessible to non specialits &#8211; then to any particular thought in the book.</p>
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		<title>By: &#8216;Paradigms, after Fifty Years&#8217; &#124; The Penn Ave Post</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8216;Paradigms, after Fifty Years&#8217; &#124; The Penn Ave Post</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 21:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] trouble if I blog too much when family is around for the holidays, so a quick one from David Warsh:  Paradigms, after Fifty Years, Economics Principals: For a book built on a narrative of, among other things, the history of our understanding of [...]]]></description>
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